Comments on: Delusions Instead of Despair http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/04/15/delusions_instead_of_despair/ The Revolution Will Be Doodled! Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:46:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: FreeFall http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/04/15/delusions_instead_of_despair/comment-page-1/#comment-5172 FreeFall Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:05:14 +0000 http://anarchyinyourhead.com/?p=469#comment-5172 On the other side, there are a number of rose tinted glasses wearing people out there who believe: their non-enforced government can do anything to deter thieves and thugs or they can manage to keep up on all affairs and be trained to defend themselves and keep a job in a competitive market or that private companies will be more honest then the gov (and not just seize power) when given control over things like a military or that the market will correct itself in every given situation without any checks (take an economics class, there are types of markets that naturally tend towards monopoly) The fact is not that there is no easy solution, it is that no one has come up with any solution that works in practice. This is do to two facts: True freedom entails that there is nothing to prevent an individual from attempting to impose on another person's freedom. There are limits to resources essential to our survival, thus, someone is going to lose out. On the other side, there are a number of rose tinted glasses wearing people out there who believe:

their non-enforced government can do anything to deter thieves and thugs or
they can manage to keep up on all affairs and be trained to defend themselves and keep a job in a competitive market or
that private companies will be more honest then the gov (and not just seize power) when given control over things like a military or
that the market will correct itself in every given situation without any checks (take an economics class, there are types of markets that naturally tend towards monopoly)

The fact is not that there is no easy solution, it is that no one has come up with any solution that works in practice. This is do to two facts:

True freedom entails that there is nothing to prevent an individual from attempting to impose on another person’s freedom.
There are limits to resources essential to our survival, thus, someone is going to lose out.

]]> By: John and Dagny Galt http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/04/15/delusions_instead_of_despair/comment-page-1/#comment-4187 John and Dagny Galt Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:52:13 +0000 http://anarchyinyourhead.com/?p=469#comment-4187 Cynically speaking, I'd have to say that Bush...and now Obama...may have served to stir some and sour others...but I think you'll see a demand by the majority for EVEN MORE SOCIALISM/FASCISM... The reasoning for that is simple...as long as people see someone else...ANYONE ELSE...with anything left to loot...they will demand that the bureaucrats lay claim to it and that the jackboot enforcers seize it...for the hoards of looters to subsist for just one more day... Only when they are faced with immediate, first-person deterrents such as being refused and rebuffed with defensive actions which may or may not result in their injury or death... Only then will they cease and desist... Cynically speaking, I’d have to say that Bush…and now Obama…may have served to stir some and sour others…but I think you’ll see a demand by the majority for EVEN MORE SOCIALISM/FASCISM…

The reasoning for that is simple…as long as people see someone else…ANYONE ELSE…with anything left to loot…they will demand that the bureaucrats lay claim to it and that the jackboot enforcers seize it…for the hoards of looters to subsist for just one more day…

Only when they are faced with immediate, first-person deterrents such as being refused and rebuffed with defensive actions which may or may not result in their injury or death…

Only then will they cease and desist…

]]> By: Matt http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2009/04/15/delusions_instead_of_despair/comment-page-1/#comment-4174 Matt Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:18:35 +0000 http://anarchyinyourhead.com/?p=469#comment-4174 I do agree that even if Obama got many on the lefts hope up, and has been smashing them for anyone with a brain, unless your hope was he would become a totalitarian President that expands government in every direction. I've known many people on the left who have become increasingly aware of Obama's abuse and expansion of government powers. They have become increasingly angrier at the state, a wonderful thing. Unfortunatley those who lie some where in the middle of Democrat and Republicans, or are just plain stupid/ ignorant, are still in hoping for "change". These unfortunately make up the vast majority of the population when combined with the neocons. Were still in shit, but maybe, just maybe there will be a significant portion of the left who will hate the state, and never trust it. Then they just need to learn economics, and bam, those on the left will be become market anarchist. I do agree that even if Obama got many on the lefts hope up, and has been smashing them for anyone with a brain, unless your hope was he would become a totalitarian President that expands government in every direction. I’ve known many people on the left who have become increasingly aware of Obama’s abuse and expansion of government powers. They have become increasingly angrier at the state, a wonderful thing. Unfortunatley those who lie some where in the middle of Democrat and Republicans, or are just plain stupid/ ignorant, are still in hoping for “change”. These unfortunately make up the vast majority of the population when combined with the neocons. Were still in shit, but maybe, just maybe there will be a significant portion of the left who will hate the state, and never trust it. Then they just need to learn economics, and bam, those on the left will be become market anarchist.

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